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Info-Mac Digest             Wed, 24 Jun 92       Volume 10 : Issue 151

Today's Topics:

      [*] Apple PR on successor to MacApp
      [*] HyperCard Stack: HPGL to PICT translator
      [*] Mac Stack size init
      [*] Marienbad-30.hqx
      [*] NOW-Up-To-Date demo
      [*] Sample Editor 1.0.3
      [*] ShutDown Later version 1.0.1 (23 June 1992) ..
      [*] Speedometer 3.1
      [*] Spinning earth quicktime
      AppleColor High-Res RGB H.V. capacitor (A)
      Bidirectional ImageWriter (Q)
      bug in OmniPage Pro 2.1
      Clock on Mac
      Color, Plain-paper printer (summary)
      CompuServe & Shareware fees (A)
      Converting Mac Postscript to EPS 'with preview' (Q)
      Demo versions (like cp/auto-menus-ii-10.hqx and app/mac-roots-57.hqx)
      Disk*Go---how good? (Q)
      DiskDup+ 2.0 Conflict with Maxima
      disk fixup utilities?
      exabyte drivers and 8.24gc rom (Q)
      FAX Modems
      FTP Programs for the Mac (Addendum)
      FTP Programs for the Mac (Summary)
      Hierarchical menus-hypercard
      Is the Powerbook 100 to be dropped?
      Launching a User Group
      Legality of uploading TT -> Type 1 Conversions (A) (2 msgs)
      Liken, Apple and software copyrights...
      Looking for MPW Perl...
      Mac Expo - Paris
      MacTCP "talk" program under Finder?
      MacTCP & PowerBook (A)
      Macworld Expo Everywhere
      Manalyzer for Quadra 700?
      Maxima RAM disk and Superboomerang problem
      Mice for Mac Pluses (Plusi?)
      More Disk Space (C)
      multiple references
      Multiple references to footnote in Word 5.0 with System 7 (C)
      Needleman Errors (A)
      Nisus - the next generation
      No Paste Special on Word 5 Edit Menu
      NuvoLink SC (a)
      pagemaker msword5 filter
      PB100. run Sys 6?
      PICT Screen Grabbing Utility (A)
      Plastics bags for diskettes
      PLI--A True Story
      Pop-mail client software
      PowerBooks and Sleep mode
      Prepare for the coming StuffIt Lite beta obsolence now!
      Quadra Cache - Is SAM 3.0.3 compatible?
      Quick Tip for IIsi users
      Return of Applesoft Basic ? -- NOT !
      Setting SCSI address with system 6 on the PB-100 used as a SCSI HD.
      System 7 and memory  (Was: Sound Master 1.7.2 -> error 192)
      TT fonts
      View by...shortcut!

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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1992 10:23:17 PDT
From: Bill Lipa <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] Apple PR on successor to MacApp

Apple and Symantec Announce Plan to Help Speed Software Applications
Development

Cross-platform Software Development Solution

NEW YORK-June 23, 1992-Symantec Corporation (NASDAQ: SYMC) and Apple Computer,
Inc. (NASDAQ: AAPL) today announced a development and marketing agreement to
provide a cross-platform application framework for Apple Macintosh computers
and Microsoft Windows-based PCs.  The agreement is designed to aid commercial
and corporate software developers in quickly creating new applications for
multiple desktop computing platforms.

[Archived as /info-mac/report/apple-pr-cross-plat-dev.txt; 16K]

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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 92 12:18:09 +0200
From: [e-mail]
Subject: [*] HyperCard Stack: HPGL to PICT translator

Regarding a query: How to read HPGL file on a Mac?
(Sorry, original mail was lost).

Here's a HyperCard stack which converts HPGL to PICT
(from "nic.funet.fi" in Finland).

I hope this helps!

Andre'.

Andre' .C. van der Ham                   EMAIL: [e-mail]

[Archived as /info-mac/card/hpgl-to-pict.hqx; 75K]

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Date: Mon, 22 June 1992 23:35:36 -0800
From: Chuck Pliske <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] Mac Stack size init

Dear folks,

I have written a tiny INIT to solve the following problem: The processor stack
size on the 68000 class machines (Plus, SE, PB100, etc) is for some reason set
too small (about 2k Hex) for major programs to run properly, resulting in
errors
of the form id=28.  This is most noticible with MacTCP programs such as
"Mailstrom".  Setting the stack to the Mac II class default, 6000 Hex, fixes
the
problem.  As only 4k is lost to the OS, there is not much problem with lost
RAM.
The Init has been tested on several 68000 type machines, and several Mac II
class machines (where it doesn't adjust the stack) with no problems.  The INIT
is Free.

[Archived as /info-mac/ex/mac-stack-size-init.hqx; 3K]

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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1992 16:32 EDT
From: "DAVID A. BELSLEY" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] Marienbad-30.hqx

I have been informed that the previously posted version (2.64) of the game
Marienbad was System 7 friendly but not 32-bit compatible.  Here then is
version 3.0, which is 32-bit compatible.

Marienbad is a version of nim in which you attempt to force your opponent
to lift the last token (in this case, match sticks).  It is the game that
figured
prominently n the movie Last Year at Marienbad.

Marienbad must be unBinHexed and uncompacted with Compact Pro.

[Archived as /info-mac/game/marienbad-30.hqx; 7K]

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Date: Mon, 22 Jun 92 14:17 EDT
From: "John.Williamson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] NOW-Up-To-Date demo

Now Up-to-Date is a calendar application designed to help you organize your
schedule. Its detailed calendar displays events in a variety of dynamic views
so you can look at a day, a week, or a month at a time. Using the public
calendar feature, workgroups can post announcements and share event
information.
This is a fully functioning demo that will expire 30 days after installation.

[Archived as /info-mac/demo/now-up-to-date.hqx; 447K]

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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 92 13:22 BST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: [*] Sample Editor 1.0.3

Sample Editor 1.0.3
 ------------------

Enclosed with this note is Sample Editor 1.0.3, an update to the previously
 submitted
version (1.0.2).


A number of changes have been made, including:

*   Now supports many keyboard shortcuts, for standard and extended
    keyboard.
*       Select All added.
*   Now supports amplitude transformations.
*   Added shortcuts in playback rate edit text box for standard Mac
frequencies.
*   Provides compression and expansion of standard Macintosh System 7 sound
 files,
    such as system beep sounds.
*   Now supports for LCII.
*   Added Use Defaults button and Undo support for Preferences.
*   Remembers microphone configuration between sessions.


The following bugs have been fixed -

*   Fixed bug in Normalise that meant Undo did not work when Normalise was the
    first edit to be made to a sample.
*   Fixed bug in Open/Import where debugger was entered on insert floppy.
*   Export now exports whole file instead of just the current selection.
*   3:1 compressed Audio IFF files are now opened correctly.

Thanks to all those who requested the changes above or pointed out the bugs.



Description:
 ----------

This version of Sample Editor NEEDS the following minimum set-up -

*   System 7
*   68020 processor (Mac II, LC, etc.) (or better)
*   13" 8-bit monitor (or better)
*   Sound input device and plenty of RAM, if you want to record.

Sample Editor is an application that allows you to edit and manipulate sampled
 sound
on the Macintosh.  It supports sound input and output from Audio Interchange
 (AIFF) files,
Mac 'snd' resources, and the Clipboard.  The sound may be compressed by a
factor
 of up
to 6:1.  You can also record direct from any connected microphone, limited only
 by the
available memory.  The waveform of a sound can be displayed in any level of
 detail you
require by selecting the part you wish to zoom in on.  You can edit it using
 Cut, Copy, Paste
and Clear, and apply transformations such as Fade, Normalise, Crossfade and
 Digital Delay.

Other features include:

%       Full balloon help
%       3d Hypercard Audio Palette-like user interface
%       Auto-play of files in open file dialogue box
%       Real-time pitch bending
%       On-screen indication of playback position
%       Overview of whole waveform displayed at all times
%       Time grid behind main waveform
%       Animated input level meter
%       Selections and insertion points can be marked and named
%       Full Undo and Redo support

A full user guide is included with the application.

Sample Editor is copyright 1992 Garrick McFarlane, but you may make copies of
 and
distribute this version for personal use provided you keep it intact with all
 its
documentation.

Commercial shareware or other companies should please contact me before
 including
Sample Editor on any compilation disks or otherwise distributing the program.


If you have anything to say about Sample Editor, please contact me at Q

Garrick McFarlane,

E-mail: [e-mail]  on Internet.  (I lose E-mail access
 soon.)

[Archived as /info-mac/sound/program/sample-editor-103.hqx; 457K]

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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1992 07:53:40 +0200
From: "(Message from the Greek Islands)" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] ShutDown Later version 1.0.1 (23 June 1992) ..

ShutDown Later is a program I wrote to shutdown my Macintosh after a
specific period.

Version 1.0.1 fixes several bugs of the version 1.0.

[Archived as /info-mac/util/shut-down-later-101.hqx; 33K]

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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 92 04:56:41 PDT
From: Jeffrey L. Needleman <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] Speedometer 3.1

Here's the latest version (3.1) of Speedometer, a popular shareware ($30)
benchmarking utility.

Its author Scott Berfield says this update fixes a potential problem with
68040 machines. This change has caused a change in the timing of the tests
which makes previous machine records inaccurate when compared to those of
this version. Fixes a bug in the Merge Records command. Adds the ability to
edit comments in external machine records. Adds the ability to interrupt a
series of tests with command-period. Adds preferences to save window
positions and to autoload the Machine Records file. Fixes a bug in the
version error dialog for the Analysis window.

[Archived as /info-mac/util/speedometer-31.hqx; 453K]

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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 92 08:04:29 PDT
From: Tim Rushing <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] Spinning earth quicktime

This is coming in two parts and must be put together to be de-binhexable.
Here is the Quicktime movie of the spinning earth, with the direction of
rotation fixed thanks to Peg Collins at Washington State University.
Submitted by Paul Brians (Bitnet: BRIANS@WSUVM1).

[Archived as /info-mac/art/qt/spinning-earth.hqx; 483K]

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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 92 19:12:17 -0700
From: [e-mail] (Bill Moynihan)
Subject: AppleColor High-Res RGB H.V. capacitor (A)

In an effort to clarify the above subject issue I will give you
the Readers Digest version of Apple's Repair Extension Program
3L0218. 1)The symptom is a shutdown of the monitor and the green
power-on LED. 2)The monitors were manufactured from March '90
through July 22, 1991. 3)Qualifying capacitors have a date code
printed on their sides from 0C01 to 1G22 (inclusive). 4)This
program will end March 23, 1993. 5)For those people who have
already had their monitors serviced by an Authorized Apple
Service Provider and their monitor serial numbers are 7000001
thru 7101012 or 5378111 thru 5624450 or 9000001 thru 9029500
they are eligible for reimbursement if they a)have a proof of
purchase, b)an Authorized Apple Transaction Form stating name of
service provider, product serial number, date of repair, parts
used in repair, cost of repair, c)proof of repair payment
(canceled check, credit card receipt, paid invoice). Submit your
reimbursement claim to Apple Computer, Inc., Attn. High Voltage
Capacitor Reimbursement, P.O. Box 17214, Denver, CO 80217.

Bill Moynihan ([e-mail])

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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 92 22:16:48 EDT
From: Bob Crawford <[e-mail]>
Subject: Bidirectional ImageWriter (Q)

Greetings,
Will someone please tell me the solution to getting the
ImageWriter II to print bi-directionally, using System 6.05 or
later?  I recall some discussion, but did not need to know,
though now a friend (not on the net) is trying to find out.
Thanks.  Send to me directly, if you wish, since this has
already seen its day in the Digest.
Bob Crawford
[e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1992 12:29:12 CDT
From: [e-mail] (David Gutierrez)
Subject: bug in OmniPage Pro 2.1

bug in OmniPage Pro 2.1
In Info-Mac Digest #150, Murph Sewall writes:
>The only real oddity I've come across is Cliff's SAT: runs fine on a
>Quadra 700 with 8 MBytes, but when I dumped it off the Quadra and
>installed on the PB 170 Type 1 error city <?!>  I called StudyWare and
>the tech said "turn ON virtual" <say what!?>

Another oddity - OmniPage Professional 2.1 does the same thing. When you try
to start a scan you get an "Unimplemented trap" error unless virtual memory
is on. Once again, it doesn't need the memory - I set VM to a minimum size.

I called Caere to ask about this and got "the PC guy". He didn't know why I
had to have VM on, but did offer to find out. He asked someone, but all
they'd tell him was that they made "a stupid mistake". It's supposed to be
fixed in the next version, but they won't say when that'll be out.

>The tech's explanation is that the program (version 3.7N) was originally
>ported from TRS-80 Basic--

I don't think that's the explanation in this case. :-)

David Gutierrez
Univ. Texas M.D. Anderson Cancer Center

[e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1992 12:54:42 -0500 (CDT)
From: Morris Watson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Clock on Mac

Does anyone know how to correct the problem of having the wrong date
appear on the IIe side of my Mac LC's (all in the lab do the same).  Since
Jan 1, the day and month have been correct, but they all put the year at
2087.  I need to know if there is any way to correct this problem.  Thanks
in advance..
Morris Watson
Midlothian ISD
Midlothian, Texas
[e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 92 09:08:09 -0400
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Color, Plain-paper printer (summary)

Info-Mac'ers:
Thank you for all your helpful input.  It seems that the choice of the net is
still the Tektronix Phaser IIIpxi for price, quality, and PostScript (1 & 2).
For those of you who asked, I am not avoiding this printer, merely looking for
options.  The ".mil" on the end of my address implies that anything we procure
must come from a "Competitive bid" on the open market -- an slow, painful and
usually incompetent way to do things, but c'est la vie!
  Some of you recommended looking into the HP DeskWriter C.  My impression is
that the quality of this product falls far below that of the Phaser.  I could
be wrong, discussion is welcome.  Another respondent suggested the HPPaintJet
XL300.  I have not heard of this one before -- I'll look into it.
  Special thanks to [e-mail] for pointing out that spray wax
printers like the Phaser III do poorly on transparencies.  I'll take that into
consideration.  However, we do have a Phaser II for transparencies so that
shouldn't be a big problem.  Boris, you didn't mention inkjet printers in your
letter, but I think that technology is a little immature yet.

Thank you all again!  Feel free to write me for more details, but keep in mind
that I'll be out of town for the next three weeks.
-- Glenn
[e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 92 23:00:34 PDT
From: Jeffrey L. Needleman <[e-mail]>
Subject: CompuServe & Shareware fees (A)

In 10-150, Alberto Ricci disagrees with my assessment of the 15% CompuServe
commission charge for collected shareware fees as being "VERY reasonable."

He says:

>I think it's unfair.
>First of all, Compuserve gets the shareware fee in terms of $$$, and
>gives it back to the author in terms of hours.

But that's not so. The author gets $$$ from CompuServe--cash payments.
Here's the relevant section of the agreement available on-line:

>FEE PAYMENTS. CompuServe will collect fees from its Users for Registration of
>Shareware. CompuServe will pay Provider 85% of fees collected by CompuServe
for
>Registration of Shareware. CompuServe will make payment of fees due within
sixty
>(60) days following the end of the billing month in which the related charges
>are made to the Users by CompuServe.

What services does CompuServe perform for 15%? Well, it does all the back
office work of collection: processes the charge card slips, deposits the
checks, records the payments. A typical shareware author might find it very
difficult to get merchant status with his bank to accept charge cards, for
example--or provide the telephone support to handle registration requests
day and night.How many shareware authors are good businesspeople--how many
have 800 numbers, for instance?

And let's not overlook the more subtle factors. If a user downloads a
shareware package, lurking in his brain will be the notion that CompuServe
or the author "knows" somehow that he downloaded the software. That
encourages registration--and making the registration so convenient also
encourages it. (The fee is just charged to the usual CompuServe account--no
need to write a special check, make a special phone call, address a
letter.) Think, too, how convenient it would be to send out upgrade notices
and bug reports if all your users were on electronic services, reachable by
e-mail.

I still think charging 15% is a bargain...
Jeff Needleman  <[e-mail]>

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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 92 21:07:49 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Converting Mac Postscript to EPS 'with preview' (Q)

Before I start, let me say that I have been doing a fair bit of converting
vanilla postscript (output from graphics packages on mainframes and work-
stations) to EPS files on the Mac which also (very important) include a
preview of the graphic as a PICT resource, so that placing the EPS file in
a PageMaker document becomes very easy. I do this using a DA called
Smart Art (from Emerald City Software).

Some minor modification may be made to the PS file (bounding box info is
added to the header and the showpage instruction at the bottom of the file
is deleted), and then the file is 're-imaged' on a LaserWriter using Smart
Art. Instead of printing the graphic, the printer returns a bitmap to the
Mac, which Smart Art appends as a resource to the PS file, thus making it
a true-blue EPS file.

I want to do the same to postscript generated by the Mac (i.e. change that
PS file to an EPS file with a preview). There are some very good reasons
for doing this. Graphing programs like Wings and IGOR produce good results
if I print the graphic from within the application, but don't give me good
control over page layout esp. if I want to include text and other items. I'd
rather have my graph as a separate entity which I can conveniently
manipulate in PageMaker. Cutting and pasting from Wings/IGOR to PageMaker
is goofy because it reduces my graphic to a 72 dpi horror that looks obscene
in print. Wings/IGOR do not save the graphic as an EPS file (like
DeltaGraph) and so the only logical way was to do the same thing we did with
our PS files from other platforms.

I generated a Postscript file on the Mac (eg. by printing my graph from
Wings and routing the output file to disk rather than the printer). I then
tried to re-image this file as before, but no-go. The printer light flashes
like its processing the PS code, Smart Art says its receiving an image, but
then there's no image. I have looked at the PS code itself (Mac generated
PS has one of the scariest headers around), but can't see anything wrong.
If I just dump the file to the printer, it prints OK. It just won't re-image
properly, which is extremely disappointing :-(.

Is there something that I am missing when I handle Mac postscript? Why does
this preview process work only on PS from other platforms? I would really
appreciate any ideas on this subject. Thanks.

[e-mail]


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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1992 14:59 MET
From: "KUN - Phil. of Language dpt" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Demo versions (like cp/auto-menus-ii-10.hqx and app/mac-roots-57.hqx)

Dear moderators,
If a demo version of a program is offered to the archives this
should be, and in most cases *is*, indicated in the description of it,
and the demo should be/is put in the proper directory.
Sometimes the description of a program does *not* tell that only
a demo version is offered.  I think that such a program should also be moved
to the demo directory, if it appears to be a demo only after somebody
downloaded it.

If you agree with me,  cp/auto-menus-ii.hqx
          and  app/mac-roots-57.hqx
(the latter is a very reduced version of the real thing)
must be moved to the demo directory.

I very rarely download demo versions, maybe this applies to others too.
Precise descriptions in what way the demo is different from the full program
may still make people want to download the demo, in certain cases.

So proper placement of demo version might reduce the number of transported
bytes and prevent disappointments. Maybe other netters discovered more
displaced demo versions of programs and might want to mention these to the
moderators.

Bye bye,
Henk Schotel.

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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 92 20:29:19 PDT
From: [e-mail] ( John Thoo )
Subject: Disk*Go---how good? (Q)

Hello, netters!

Mac's Place (mail-order) is advertising a product called _Disk*Go_
in the Aug92 _Macworld_.  The ad reads

  Softwriters, Inc.  Speed, Speed, Speed.  Just drop Disk*Go into
  your System Folder and accelerate your Apple hard disk.  On
  average, Disk*Go increases Apple hard disk speed by 40%.
  Advanced technology provides immediate acceleration without
  having to reformat your hard disk.  Get Disk*Go now ... you've
  been waiting long enough!  $45.


I've never heard of Disk*Go before.  Does anyone have anything to
say (good/bad/ugly) about it?

Thanks.

--John.
<[e-mail]>

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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 92 15:33:49 PDT
From: Paul Brians <[e-mail]>
Subject: DiskDup+ 2.0 Conflict with Maxima

DiskDup+ "unexpectedly quits" when run while Maxima is on.  The error
message is the hugely informative "application unexpectedly quit
because (your hard disk name here)."  Turning off Maxima from its
control panel and rebooting fixes things.

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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 92 03:23:36 -0700
From: Steve Weyer <[e-mail]>
Subject: disk fixup utilities?

I've normally used Disk First Aid with success; however, recently it couldn't
fix a problem (cmd-S revealed an "invalid PEOF") on my internal hard disk.
suggestions for utilities (share, commercial) to patch such problems greatly
appreciated.

thanks

Steve Weyer
Internet: [e-mail] (this still works, though I'm no longer at Apple)
AppleLink: WEYER.S
AOL: SteveWeyer
daytime phone: [phone]

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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 92 23:24:05 met
From: Andrew R. Jones <[e-mail]>
Subject: exabyte drivers and 8.24gc rom (Q)

Dear net people,
A couple of questions i hope somebody out there can help me with:
1) I have access to an exabyte drive which lives with our UNIX box. Iwould
like to be able to hook this up to my mac (it has scsi) does anybody out there
have a suitable driver, as the mac does not see it ( or scsi probe)
2) I have to my eternal shame bought an 8.24 gc card, this may have been one
of the bigest mistakes i made so far witht the mac, first the system 7
problems,
now all i want to do is to upgrade the rom so that i can use the nice new
16" monitors. The prices i have been quoted here in Europe range from
$250 to $750!!! for a $15 rom. I shall be in the US sometime in August and
would really like to get the upgrade. Would some kind person let me know
how that is done...i would love a 16" screen:)
all the best
andrew ([e-mail])

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Date: 24 Jun 92 15:35:00 EDT
From: "Charles E. Bouldin" <[e-mail]>
Subject: FAX Modems

I am looking to buy a FAX modem that is:
1. 9600 baud send and receive FAX
2. 2400 baud v.42 bis data
3. Internal power supply, that is, no clunky extra box that plugs into the
   wall.

I would like to use it with a Mac+, Mac SE and Mac IIci. Does anyone have
recommendations, good or bad!?! I will summarize back to the net if I get
substantial responses. Also, have Mac: User, World and Week had a fax-modem
review recently???

Finally, there are a few fax-modems that can be put on a localtalk net and
used by all Macs on the net. Any expericence with those??

Thanks!!

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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 92 14:30:08 EDT
From: Dave Virga <[e-mail]>
Subject: FTP Programs for the Mac (Addendum)

A couple of comments and clarifications concerning my posting in
Infomac Digest vol 10 #149....

First, a correction:  The IP adress for ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu, as reported
even in Mike Gleason's Mac FTP List, is 128.174.20.50.  I still have not
been able to connect to this IP address.  However, my Vax FTP client
parsed ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu to 141.142.20.50, which in turn identified
itself as zaphod.ncsa.uiuc.edu in the welcome banner.  Here, I found
NCSA Telnet version 2.4.02, with docs, as well as the combined NCSA/BYU
Telnet version 2.5B (beta).

Second, a clarification.  In the discussion of my FTP needs, it can be
construed that I am complaining about the Mac FTP programs that
automatically grab directory listings when you change directories.  This
is not so.  This feature is essential for the windowed interface, and
I fully support it.  I especially like the programs such as Fetch that
remember the contents of directories when you return to them.  My complaint
is with the Internet.  Its backbone is too small to support the massive
amount of traffic that it carries.  I experience an average data transfer
rate of about 750 characters per second; I've never seen better than 2k
cps.  I think that's pretty crummy.  I hope that upgrade plans are in the
works for it. (bandwidth limit exceeded for this topic...)

Dave
[e-mail]

**  MY opinions!!  Don't try to say, "The Government said..."  **

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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 92 12:08:48 CDT
From: [e-mail] (Kurt Hirchert)
Subject: FTP Programs for the Mac (Summary)

In Info-Mac Digest V10 #149 Dave Virga <[e-mail]> writes:
>NCSA Telnet 2.4.12 and 2.4.18  (freeware)
>Available from ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu  128.187.2.20
>   Recommended by several people, but I was never successful connecting
>   to this host to get it.  But I have a copy of version 2.4.5, and it
>   has a CLI, so I assume that these newer versions do as well.  It has
>   a very plain CLI - you type commands, and get responses in the same
>   window.  There is no "FTP>" prompt, so don't wait for one - but it
>   understood all of the commands that I threw at it.
>
>NCSA Telnet with BYU Extensions v2.5B (beta)  (freeware)
>Available from bert.cs.byu.edu  128.187.2.20
>   This version of NCSA Telnet has the same CLI as the original (NCSA)
>   version - BYU doesn't appear to have modified this part.

This is not entirely correct.  The newest release version of NCSA Telnet
is 2.4.02.  It does not include an FTP client.  The FTP client was added
by BYU.  We do have a copy of 2.4.19 on ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu in the
Mac/Telnet/contributions directory, but it came from BYU.  I would think
that bert.cs.byu.edu would be the preferred source for getting version
2.4 modified (by BYU) to include the FTP client.

On the other hand, version 2.5 (still in beta) is a joint project between
NCSA and BYU.  It is available on both ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu and bert.cs.byu.edu.
The newest bug fixes and enhancements to the beta version seem to show up on
bert before they show up on ftp, so I would probably still look on bert first,
but when version 2.5 is officially released, it will be available in both
places.
--
Kurt W. Hirchert     [e-mail]
National Center for Supercomputing Applications

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 24 Jun 92 14:53:05 +0100
From: Mr Gordon S Byron <[e-mail]>
Subject: Hierarchical menus-hypercard

JHas anybody got info/an xcmd which would give us heirarchic menus
rather like Be Heirachic in HyperCard? thankss

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 24 Jun 92  10:13 GMT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Is the Powerbook 100 to be dropped?

     A recent posting from Alan Hewatt implied that the powerbook
100 is to be discontinued.  I imagine he got this from Apple
France (or a dealer) who are usually well informed.  Can anyone
stateside confirm this? Is the PB 100 to be dropped pure and
simple or is it to be replaced, with the PB 140 by the upcoming
PB 145?

     If there is to be a replacement, I would hope that it will
retain all the qualities of the PB 100 that Alan so rightly
underlines: compactness and lightness (the PB100 is smaller than
the 140 or the 170), its RAM disk capability and the possibility
of connecting its hard drive to a desk Mac via an SCSI cable.
And I would also hope that some kind of docking station, or at
least an external video outlet would be built into nay
replacement.

     I think there is another point that is important.  The PB100
gives a much better performance/price ratio than the PB140.
Believe it or not, I am writing this on a Toshiba T1000LE which
I bought specifically for its portability while on a sabbatical
stay, but after nearly a year of use I actually like the damn
thing!  However, I'm thinking of moving up to a PB as my desk
machines are Macs but I want nothing bigger than the Tosh and
preferably smaller and lighter...

     I also seem to remember that the PB100 is assembled by Sony
and the PB 140 and 170 by Apple.  Could there be some unseen or
unsung difference between these two giants which may result in
the PB100 being killed off?  If so, the users will be the losers.

     Any replies/flames/comments to: [e-mail]
as I'm about to leave the address this was posted from.  Thanks.

John Williams


------------------------------

Date: Tue, 23 Jun 92 16:41:25 CDT
From: Andrew Vernon <[e-mail]>
Subject: Launching a User Group

Netters,

I'm interested in reviving a Mac user's group on my campus, and I would
like some info (like: How to get Apple to recognise you and some tips and
experiences from those of you involved with MUGs). Please reply to me
personally at [e-mail], and I will post a summary back to
the net if there is enough interest.

 ---------
    Andrew Vernon

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 23 Jun 92 19:31:11 EDT
From: "Allan M. Bloom" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Legality of uploading TT -> Type 1 Conversions (A)

On Tue, 23 Jun, Charles A. Patrick wrote:

>In a recent posting I advertised my TT -> Type 1 conversion of the fonts
>Chicago, Geneva, Monaco and New York, which I use with ATM 2.0.3. Thus in
>effect flushing my system of TrueType, which I view as an unfortunate
>development. One surprising consequence, at least to me, of this posting was
>the immediate interest shown, by other Netters, in acquiring these Type 1
>versions. In particular, I have been asked to make these available to the
>Info-Mac archives. I would be happy to do the necessary if there is a well-
>founded consensus that this will not be a violation of copyright, and if the
>moderators feel secure in accepting the postings.

Charles, we seem to be mirrors of each other. Last year I wanted TT fonts
for all the built-in Type 1's in my LaserWriter IINT. It was expensive in
bucks and time to do the conversion. To partly recoup the investment, I
offered folks the complete set for $15. Of two siblings and their spouses
I have three lawyers and a paralegal on call. At their suggestion, I was
careful to bill for professional services, not for the fonts. The mean
sister suggested that she would be delighted to stuff me on behalf of
any old font merchant if I either charged for the fonts or posted them to
something like the sumex-aim archives. She positively salivated over the
prospect.

The bottom line is that the fonts are copyrighted. You cannot sell them.
You cannot post them to a bulletin board any more than you can post a
copy of Excel. Apple has the Type-1 fonts on FTP.APPLE.COM, as it does
most of the TT fonts. Apple is allowed. We civilians aren't.

Al Bloom, Virginia Tech

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 23 Jun 92 23:01:24 PDT
From: Jeffrey L. Needleman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Legality of uploading TT -> Type 1 conversions (A)

In 10-150, Charles Patrick wonders about the legality of uploading Type 1
fonts converted from TT fonts to the archives.

I'm no lawyer, but my guess is the key issue is whether the TT fonts
themselves are freeware/shareware or made available without fee by their
copyright owners. Programs like FontMonger and Metamorphosis Pro can
translate from one format to the other. TTConverter 1.1 can translate to
and from Windows and Mac TT formats. Fifth Generation Systems over on
CompuServe (new path is "GO FIFTH") just set up a section to handle Mac TT
fonts which were converted from the new Windows 3.1 TT fonts. I've never
heard of any copyright or licensing problems caused by using any of these
programs or posts.

You surely can't post commercially-sold fonts, even if you have converted
them to a different format yourself.



Jeff Needleman  <[e-mail]>

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1992 11:49:44 PDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Liken, Apple and software copyrights...

Hi, folks.

    There exists a company, called Liken, which sells a system which
enables a Sun UNIX box to emulate a Macintosh.  The kicker is that one must
have Apple's Macintosh System Software 6.0.7.  Of course, all of Apple's system
s/w is freely distributed, but the question has come up here whether this usage
is in violation of U.S. copyright laws.  Apple includes the following in the
license agreement for it's s/w:  "This License allows you to use the Apple
Software on a single Apple computer...," which seems to preclude its use for
the Liken system on non-Apple hardware.

    Any comments?

'til next we type
HAVE FUN!!      --      Jesse

------------------------------

Date: 24 Jun 92 14:08:00 CST
From: "Kaelin L. Colclasure" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Looking for MPW Perl...

As the subject says, I'm looking for a Mac implementation of the
Perl scripting language.  If anyone has seen or is working on
a port, please respond via EMail.  I will summarize for the
net.  Thanx!

Kaelin L. Colclasure          [e-mail]
1500 CSGP/SMSDN               [phone]
Scott AFB, IL 62225           (DSN)576-3435

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 23 Jun 92 19:13:17 EDT
From: Wendy Farkas <[e-mail]>
Subject: Mac Expo - Paris

Mes amis...

I've written to the address listed in Framingham, MA for information
concerning the Mac Expo in Paris this September, with no response to date.
Can anyone supply some information (dates, location, cost?)

Thanks for the help (as always).

Wendy Farkas    VIRGINIA TECH

------------------------------

Date: 24 Jun 92 10:43:00 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: MacTCP "talk" program under Finder?

 -----------   ORIGINAL ATTACHMENT   --------
SENT 06-24-92 FROM PORTIGAL_STEVE @CADDY

I've got a MacPlus (ecccchh!) that is running MacTCP.  I'd like to be able to
do something like "talk" (the Unix chat program).  The talk program in
the info-mac archives requires a talkd and a talk program to be running
simultaneously.  I've only got 1M of memory and running Multifinder is
pretty much useless, so I'm running Finder.

Any suggestions or ideas are welcome.
replies *must* be sent to [e-mail] else will bounce
Steve Portigal

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 23 Jun 92 23:02:15 PDT
From: Jeffrey L. Needleman <[e-mail]>
Subject: MacTCP & PowerBook (A)

In 10-150, Jean Thioulouse says in response to my suggestion to move MacTCP
to the system root:

>This is only for old software, and not for MacTCP 1.1, which works
>perfectly in the control panel folder.

Jean suggests zapping the pram instead.

There's a lot of software out there, Jean, what works for your special case
need not work for all of us. I use MacTCP1.1 too with an SLFP driver. The
SLFP driver, which I do keep in the Extensions folder, requires an SLFP
config control panel in the System root. In my setup, MacTCP1.1 and MacTCP
DNR must also be in the System root to get things to work. I know others
whose Ethernet cards required MacTCP 1.1 in the System root too.

In another response, Michael McGuire suggests using the MacTCP installer,
saying it creates the MacTCP DNR file in the system root for compatibility
with other older software. I obtained MacTCP 1.1 as part of the Eudora
software; there was no installer. MacTCP DNR is created the first time
MacTCP 1.1 loads; an installer isn't needed.

Neither response is wrong; both are worth trying. If neither works for you,
move MacTCP and associated files to the System root. That's worth trying
too!

Jeff Needleman  <[e-mail]>

------------------------------

Date: TUE, 23 Jun 92 23:44:54 EDT
From: "Louis_Bergeron"[e-mail]
Subject: Macworld Expo Everywhere

Write to:
Macworld Exposition
Mitch Hall Associates
P.O. BOX 4010
Dedham
Massachusetts 02026

They have expositions all over the world. One coming in Boston August 4-7 and
another in Toronto this fall.

Louis Bergeron [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: 24 Jun 92 12:32
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Manalyzer for Quadra 700?

Hi, Is there a version of Manalyzer available which works with the Quadra 700's
built-in Ethernet controller? The version I have (2.0d3) always crashes on
start. The documentation specifically mentions that it can be used with the
new Apple Nubus Ethernet card only.

(Manalyzer is Apple's officially unsupported free Ethernet packet/traffic
analyzer, a very useful program for tracking down low-level problems in
networks which run other protocols than just EtherTalk, eg. TCP/IP.)

Thank you!

Constantin Kahn, Inst. f. Mathematik, Univ. Hannover, Germany

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 23 Jun 92 20:25:46 PDT
From: Paul Brians <[e-mail]>
Subject: Maxima RAM disk and Superboomerang problem

The best answer I have gotten about why I can't get my system to run
>From Maxima's RAM disk is that there is a known incompatability between
Maxima and Superboomerang--so far as I know only when one is trying to
run Boomerang from the RAM disk.  Connectix is supposedly working on the
problem.  Info via CompuServe Apple Systems Forum.

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1992 08:00:15 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Bob Rahe)
Subject: Mice for Mac Pluses (Plusi?)

 In IMV10I150 Phillip Broussard asks about replacement mice for a Mac+.
In the 3rd party area, I've been using the A+ optical mouse for a number
of years and would highly recommend it.  No more skungey rollers and having
to clean the innards, smooth handling, overall works well.  The only thing
to remember, which applies to all optical mice, is that you have to run it
on the pad that comes with it.  That's not a problem for me, but if you
like to run your mouse on strange surfaces....

  Don't remember the manufacturer, and the mouse is at home, but I think
there are ads for it from MacConnection etc. in the usual magazines.  I
think I paid around $70-$80.

Disclaimer: just a satisfied customer.

  Bob Rahe

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 23 Jun 92 22:58:42 PDT
From: Jeffrey L. Needleman <[e-mail]>
Subject: More Disk Space (C)

In 10-150, Justin Gray says:

>After seeing so many heated debates here, on CIS, on AOL, and on Prodigy, I
>felt compelled to reprint the one posting that I made regarding the flame war
>over the Alladin (Alysis' competitor) warning to not use More Disk Space in
>combination with it's beta software.

Justin proceeds then to post precisely the same letter I had already posted
in 10-145.  I said at the time, as my only comment:

>Obviously, Alysis has no idea that the problem holds for the older
>shareware version of StuffIt too...

It's hard to believe that Alysis is still misinterpreting Aladdin's letter
as applying only to beta software, but there you have it--a repeat of the
comment with its erroneous hypothesis. When I read in 10-149 that the
problem was solved, I thought this matter was ended. I guess not....

Did you ever think you've fallen into an alternate universe by accident--a
universe much like our own, but one in which Elvis really IS dead?  <g>

Jeff Needleman  <[e-mail]>

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 24 Jun 92 08:44:55 IST
From: "Dr. Michael Silverstein" <[e-mail]>
Subject: multiple references

Just reading the Microsoft "fix" for multiple
references sounded an alarm for me, since I often
dissect an article after the original draft
(hey, thank heavens for cut and paste...).
If I move the paragraph with the linked picture
>From the end of the article to the beginning of
the article I will have the reference numbering
out of order.

Yes, of course, this can be fixed manually,
but I really like leaving that kind of thing
to those that do it best, the Mac.

If you do not intend to move things around,
the "fix" sounds good....

mike

Materials Engineering, Technion    Tel: [phone]
Haifa, Israel 32000                Fax: [phone]

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 24 Jun 92 11:11:14 MDT
From: [e-mail] (Stephen C. Harmony)
Subject: Multiple references to footnote in Word 5.0 with System 7 (C)

In Info-Mac Digest V10 #150 Martin gave Microsoft's workaround for the multiple
reference problem. This method does work, but its results are not perfect. One
problem is that Word has a built-in minimum size for a graphic frame. This
minimum size is 0.17 inches on a side, about the size of an uppercase "M" in
Times 12. The pasted character appears in the upper left corner of the graphic
frame, and is in the right position for a superscripted number, but there is
too
much white space to the right of it.

A second problem occurs when you edit your text. As Microsoft promises, the
second reference automatically changes when the first changes. But what happens
when you rearrange your text so radically that the pasted, linked picture
reference is placed before an original reference with a lower number? For
example, say you've created two references to an article that is originally
number three in your bibliography. Move the text containing the pasted picture
"3" to before the text containing the first reference to article number two.
Clearly the footnotes should be renumbered, but Microsoft's method will not do
it.

He had the right approach in complaining to Microsoft. We can gripe all we want
in the Info-Mac forum, but Microsoft won't be motivated to change anything if
we
don't let them know we're unhappy, and that their clever workaround doesn't let
them off the hook.

Steve Harmony

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 23 Jun 92 22:59:25 PDT
From: Jeffrey L. Needleman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Needleman Errors (A)

In 10-150, Justin Gray of Alysis says:

>Jeff Needleman has posted a number of messages recently which erroneously
>describe More Disk Space as not using temporary files.  He says that a power
>failure during compression will produce files which are, "toast--burnt toast,
>and unrecoverable"  Jeff says that, "Alysis admitted the problem,"  He says
>that, "I mentioned a definite problem with MDS--since it didn't make a copy of
>a file before compressing it, a power failure at that moment would trash the
>file completely and make it unrecoverable."
>
>Fortunately, these statements are incorrect.

There are indeed incorrect, Justin. For one thing, I NEVER posted any such
messages in INFO-MAC. Never. (All Info-Mac issues are readily available,
Justin. Check yourself.)

What you are quoting from is a note I addressed to one of your beta
testers, quoting some things I had read about SuperDisk and MDS and asking
if the problems were still present in the current versions. I never
received a reply from him. Apparently he forwarded my comments on to you.

I was referring to a SuperDisk problem (I wrote "MDS" instead of "SD" in my
note to your tester--my error--sorry!) reported by Adam Engst in Info-Mac
volume 10, issue 92. Very briefly, here's a portion of what Adam said then:

>If you crash  your Mac or
>lose power while compressing a file from the Finder by adding
>.s to the file or folder name, the file SuperDisk is working on
>is toast. As far as I know it cannot be recovered - the test
>files that I wasted were certainly munged beyond my recovery
>skills (and yes, I tested it myself for a while after
>responding to a complaint from Alsysis that SD did not corrupt
>files. They admitted that in those circumstances it did corrupt
>files every time). This is not a problem _after_ the file has
>been compressed the first time, but that first time is just
>waiting for trouble. We reported this bug in our comparison of
>SuperDisk and DiskDoubler in TidBITS some time ago - I think
>the version then was 1.7.3, and I do not know if Alysis has
>changed any of the subsequent versions (or if there even are
>any subsequent versions). They certainly did not send a fixed
>version to me - if they had I would have corrected that
>statement in a later issue of TidBITS. I suspect that SD 2.0
>will not have this bug.

That's where my report of "burnt toast" came from, as well as the other
phrases you quoted.

Now let me ask you a direct question. When did you learn that StuffIt 1.5.1
created corrupt archives of MDS-compressed files? Considering that StuffIt
1.5.1 is the compression program distributed by AOL to all its members and
that you have a forum on AOL, how come you never mentioned this problem in
your own forum? Didn't it ever occur to you that your customers and the
rest of us on AOL might want to know of such a data-destroying conflict?
Why, even today, are you still writing as if the problem only affects beta
versions of StuffIt? I posted here my opinion that you had misread the
Aladdin warning and didn't realize that ALL versions of StuffIt were
included in the warning. Was that opinion of mine wrong?

Jeff Needleman  <[e-mail]>

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1992 00:41:02 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Terry Thiel)
Subject: Nisus - the next generation

[e-mail] writes:
>I was thinking of purchasing a new word processor
>to replace FullWrite and was hoping to avoid the
>multo grande price of Frame Maker...Nisus, except
>for the citations, seems ideal....
You know FrameMaker is avaialable for an educational price if you qualify.
I think its $279.
-Terry

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 23 Jun 92 21:04:57 PDT
From: Paul Brians <[e-mail]>
Subject: No Paste Special on Word 5 Edit Menu

I passed on Martin Josso's note on multiple references to the same
footnote in Word 5 under System 7 to a friend who thought it was great,
but when I tried it I found I couldn't.  I have no "Paste Special"
option on my edit menu.  The copy/paste portion has these options:
Cut
Copy
Paste Object
Paste Link
Clear
Select All

Holding down option, command or shift keys makes no difference.  I
can't find anything relevant in the Preferences.  The three passages
indexed in the Word User's Guide don't mention the possibility of not
having this menu choice.  I am running system 7 with the latest Tuneup,
my Word is 5.0.  Was there maybe something I neglected to install from
the installations diskettes, and if so what is it and can I install it
without entirely reinstalling Word?  Or what?

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 24 June 1992 09:36:44 -0500
From: Jill Williams <[e-mail]>
Subject: NuvoLink SC (a)

According to MacWeek, NuvoTech is no longer in the Mac networking business. The
NuvoLink SC is apparently being marketed as the "EtherLAN SC" by a company
called Focus:

Focus Enhancements, Inc.
800 West Cummings Park
Woburn MA 01801
800-538-8866
617-938-8088
fax [phone]

Jill Williams
Academic Information Systems
Columbia University

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 24 Jun 92 10:44:13 cdt
From: "Duckenfield,Paul" <[e-mail]>
Subject: pagemaker msword5 filter

    Is there a copy of the Word5 filter for PageMaker somewhere
on the net where I can ftp it? Please send responses to me and
I will post the results.

Paul Duckenfield
User Services Specialist
Grinnell College
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 23 Jun 92 22:00:13 EST
From: Murph Sewall <[e-mail]>
Subject: PB100. run Sys 6?

On Tue, 23 Jun 1992 10:11:45 GMT you said:
>I also put a System 6.0.7 on my newly acquired PB 100, and in general
>I'm very pleased with this setup. I have only two questions:
>
>- The old Battery cdev I found with my system 6 does not look as
>comfortable as the new System 7 one. Can I use the new one with my old
>system?

** I haven't actually tried this **

Put a copy of the System 7 battery DA on the PB's hard drive.

Boot the System 7 Disk Tools disk and double click the System 6 System
(it should open as a System 7 suitcase).  Drop the battery DA into the
System 6 suitcase, close, and restart.

Alternatively, open any DA suitcase and drop the System 7 battery DA
into it.  Then, restart under System 6 and use Font/DA mover in the
usual way to install the DA.

It probably would be a good idea to make a copy of your System 6 System
file somewhere just in case the System 7 DA gives System 6 indigestion
;-)

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 24 Jun 92 10:45:53 EDT
From: [e-mail] (Mel Martinez x8378)
Subject: PICT Screen Grabbing Utility (A)

>Does anyone know of a utility (cdev) that allows a *region* of the screen
>to be caught?  Moreover, one that doesn't require a key combination?  I
>would like to do some screenshots of unshifted fonts in Key Caps, but when
>I try to do a screenshot Key Caps reads the Command and Shift keys.

ftp to sumex-aim.stanford.edu (or a mirror site like wuarchive.mac.edu) and

get info-mac/cp/flash-it-22.hqx

(at a mirror site, prefix the path with mirrors/ ).

This is a truly marvelous screen-capture tool.  Aside from its other nice
features, it allows you to configure its 'hot key'.  I have asigned it to the
Print Screen (F13) key on my extended keyboard.  This is not intercepted by Key
Caps so it works as you indicate (yes, i just checked it.).

Hippy! Hippy! Jay! Jay!

Mel Martinez
The Johns Hopkins University
Dept. of Physics

------------------------------

Date: WED, 24 Jun 92 00:33:12 EDT
From: "Louis_Bergeron"[e-mail]
Subject: Plastics bags for diskettes

Fine discussion, but the practical aspect is important. I often carry
diskettes in my pocket or suitcase and NEVER in a plastic bag. Can you imagine
putting back a disk in it's little plastic bag each time you use it? Think
about a 30 disks backup and you will get a headache. Also putting the disks in
plastic bags often means putting one's nice CLEAN fingers on the media inside
the disks. The worst thing that can be done.
It's better to store the diskettes in boxes with the metal AT THE BOTTOM.
Anyway reading your text have been interesting for it's scientific aspects,
but not for the practical side.
Louis Bergeron [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: 22 Jun 92 11:36:00 CST
From: "Coons, David" <[e-mail]>
Subject: PLI--A True Story

A PLI cartridge hard disk drive (Infinity 40 Turbo) of ours recently
failed, and had to be returned to the factory for service.  I thought some
of you might enjoy, and perhaps profit from, the account of our dealing
with their administrative staff.  (Despite what is described below, I'm
pleased with the drive itself.)


4/7     Our PLI Infinity 40 Turbo cartridge hard disk fails to power up.  I
    call PLI and they tell me to ship it to them in California for
    repair.

4/8     The drive is shipped to PLI.

4/22    PLI:  "The cost will be $112.11.  Should we go ahead?"
    Me:  "Yes.  A purchase order will be faxed to pay for it."
    PLI:  "Okay."

4/23    A PO is faxed to PLI.

5/11    Me:  "What's the status?"
    PLI:  "The drive is ready, but we haven't received payment."
    PLI (later in the day):  "The PO is okay.  The drive will ship
    tomorrow."

5/15    Drive has not been received.  Me:  "What's the status?"
    PLI:  "We haven't received payment."
    A prepay check is mailed.

6/1     Drive has not been received.  I call PLI and leave a message.

6/2     PLI:  "The drive has been repaired but not shipped because we
    haven't received payment."  I ask our Purchasing Department to
    contact PLI directly.

6/10    PLI (to Purchasing):  "Oh, here's your check on my desk--it was
    received on May 26th.  I'll request rush shipment."

6/15    Drive has not been received.
    Me:  "What's the status?"
    PLI (morning): "The drive isn't ready to be shipped."
    PLI (afternoon): "The drive is ready and will be shipped today."

6/19    The drive is received.  And it works.


David Coons, Microcomputer Specialist                      [e-mail]
Academic Computing Services, Texas Tech University           [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1992 17:01:15 -0600
From: [e-mail] (Dave Umbaugh )
Subject: Pop-mail client software

In info-mac-digest 10-146, Isidro, Gerardo, Avila-Calderon asked about a
Pop-mail client.

Eudora.  You can find it at ux1.cso.uiuc.edu

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 23 Jun 92 22:00:58 EST
From: Murph Sewall <[e-mail]>
Subject: PowerBooks and Sleep mode

On Mon, 22 Jun 1992 19:41 -0500 you said:
>While Sleeping a PowerBook rather than shutting it down will prevent
>you from getting the boot sound when you turn it back on, it's not a
>good idea. The manual that came with my 170 specifically warns that
>you shouldn't move a PowerBook while it's in Sleep mode. God only knows
>why, but....

** WHOLLY UNOFFICIAL COMMENT <Proceed at your own risk> **

Actually, what the User's Guide for Macintosh PowerBook Computers
actually says is: always shutdown before *transporting* (page 223) but
"Do not *move* the computer when you can hear its hard disk spinning.
When you put the computer to SLEEP, wait until the screen is blank
*before moving* the computer." (emphasis added) page 222.

The risk to moving a running PowerBook is jarring the disk heads and
causing a hardware disk crash (a nasty event).  Putting a PowerBook to
sleep causes the hard drive to park its heads just like shutting down
does.  Hence, sleep protects as well as shutdown.

The best (from someone with no known connection with Apple) explanation
I've heard for Apple's prescription is that it's possible that putting a
PowerBook in a briefcase and closing the lid could put enough pressure
on the case to depress a key on the keyboard (lots of MeSsy DOS notebook
owners have taken out their displays with such a maneuver) and activate
the hard drive.

I carry my PB 170 in a well padded case with no chance of undue external
pressure.  It travels asleep all the time without ill effect.  Our local
Apple rep loaned us a PB 140 to evaluate for our MBA program.  She
arrived at my office and pulled the PB out of her purse.  When I opened
it and touched the power button, I found it was asleep (with the battery
almost, but not quite drained--it had been asleep in her purse for
hours).  It traveled from one faculty office to another (also asleep)
for several days without being the worse for it.

The PB 170 reviewer for MacWorld used the one he was evaluating on a
subway and also says he started up some disk intensive tasks and put it
RUNNING in his backpack and bicycled five blocks through New York
traffic (the sort of thing one might do with someone else's PowerBook
;-)  The PB 170 proved rugged enough to withstand the abuse.

I've used mine (as a passenger :) in a pickup truck on two lane country
roads (at night).  I wouldn't recommend treating one that way on a
regular basis, but there's plenty of evidence that the little rascals
are not notably fragile.  As long as you don't do anything to it that
you wouldn't do to your first born, you'll probably be okay (I've had
mine more than six months and it's STILL awesome).

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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1992 20:21 EST
From: Mark Cornick <[e-mail]>
Subject: Prepare for the coming StuffIt Lite beta obsolence now!

In IM 10-150 Al "Hokie" Bloom writes:

I'm sure I am not the only one to note that the Stuffit Lite Public Beta
expires a very precious few days from now. I dropped Aladdin a note asking
about same last week. And I did not receive the courtesy of a reply. Have
any of y'all found out what will happen next week?

Stuffit Lite is a nice program. I would really like to know its status.

Well Al, I honestly don't know anything about what happens to SIT Lite after
the first, but I have a few recommendations for people in general:

1) Get the latest StuffIt Expander from Info-Mac. That way, after the beta
   expires, you can still unstuff your SIT Lite files.
2) Barring that, try the "Michelangelo Tactic": set your clock back a month
   so that SIT Lite won't expire right away.
3) Wire Aladdin and ask 'em when a final version arrives. Also ask them why
   the beta expired so early!

Personally, I've avoided SIT Lite like the plague after noticing several
disastrous errors in it. If these errors are fixed, I will probably go ahead
and use it, since I agree with Al that is a well-done program.

NO COMMENT WHATSOEVER on StuffIt vs. More Disk Space. NONE :-)

Mark "Duke Dog" Cornick
James Madison University
[e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 92 01:34:40 EDT
From: [e-mail] (steven s kang)
Subject: Quadra Cache - Is SAM 3.0.3 compatible?

All,
    FYI, asked whether or not there was a tool that turns the CPU
cache on/off on -the fly. The answer is Yes. It's called Compatibility
by Alysis. Thanks to King for that info. Now, I've installed
SAM 3.0.3 on my Quadra 700 but when the CPU cache is on, the SAM seems
to be incompatible; I have to turn the SAM off in order to boot the system.
Is there a later version that's Quadra compatible? Thanks.
-Steve
PS. The Alysis tool isn't as 'automagic' as I had hoped. The user has to
provide
a list of applications that's known to be incompatible. The tool, however, is
very useful if you know incompatible apps - it'll turn the cache off
on-the-fly.

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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 92 16:30:53
From: [e-mail] (Dieder)
Subject: Quick Tip for IIsi users

Believe it or not, the cdev 'brightness' that comes in System 7.0.1 also works
on displays plugged into the built-in video! However, the setting is not
preserved between reboots. Arrow keys, and the keys 0-9, plus the mouse, all
can be used to control the screen's  brightness, or dimness, to your own
preference. This applies to a Mac IIsi. Also, once you are finished with the
brightness adjustment, close the panel, because for some bizarre reason, it
actually hogs up a very disproportionate amount of CPU time for a small cdev.
Go figure. However, it is a handy little thing, has no init/cdev conflicts,
and is a great little screen saver.

Dieder

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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1992 12:02:47 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Return of Applesoft Basic ? -- NOT !

Greetings from Lexington, Massachusetts. Birthplace of freedom in America.

I would like to retrieve some old applesoft basic algorithms. Does anybody know
how I would go about getting an applesoft basic file from a prodos 3.5 floppy
to a mac text file? I got the file over to the mac, with Apple File Exchange,
and
opened it as a text file, it wasnt a pretty sight.  Also, does Microsoft
MacBasic have the capability to do this? Any help would be greatly
appreciated.

 If the minds capacity were rated in gigabytes, How many gigs we talkin?
 Does it depend on whos mind were talking about .


Just wundrin
Paul Kerrigan

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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 92 12:53 N
From: <[e-mail]> ([e-mail] FAX
FRANCE[33] 76-48-39...)
Subject: Setting SCSI address with system 6 on the PB-100 used as a SCSI HD.

Distribution-File:
    [e-mail]

>I also put a System 6.0.7 on my newly acquired PB 100.
>How can I set the SCSI ID Nr it should use when hooked up to a desktop
>to serve as an external HD? I'm daisy chaining through another est. HD.

The SCSI id setting on the PB-100 is done in the SYSTEM-7 control panel called
PORTABLE.  It is not present in the system-6 control panel of the same name,
which is loaded by the system-6 installer when PORTABLE is selected - the best
system 6.0.8 for the PB-100.

Just run system-7 to change the SCSI id, then switch to system-6.  The scsi id
is kept somewhere non-volatile (PRAM ?).  Incidently, get system-switcher 1.1
>From the info-mac archives to allow easy switching between systems 6 and 7 on
the PB-100 (or other Mac).

When you plug in the special SCSI adapter cable, the selected scsi number is
displayed without either system being loaded.

I couldn't get the system-7 battery cdev into system-6, but then I didn't try
too hard.  I rarely use it.  The battery icon in the menu bar in both system
6 and 7 is more useful.

Alan Hewat, ILL, 156X Grenoble Cedex, 38042 France (email [e-mail])

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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 92 00:33:38 +0200
From: [e-mail] (Olof Morell)
Subject: System 7 and memory  (Was: Sound Master 1.7.2 -> error 192)

[e-mail]   asks about why a Mac Classic with system 7
and 2MB RAM memory crashes when they try to run Sound Master:

This has nothing to do with Sound Master!

Running any Mac with sys 7 and 2Mb ram is a mistake.
If it was sold like this then the vendor should apologize,
Apple saying that it's runnable with 2 meg is ridiculous,
you simply don't have very much left when the system is loaded.
A reasonable configuration with sys 7 is 4 MB, and it's the smallest
they should sell.

Any Mac with less than a 68030 can't use the virtual memory due to
lack of MMU.  I believe a Classic has 68000, so it's out.
(as well as the old LC, using a 68020, that's why they came with LC II;
only improvement is 68030 -> virtual memory)

Advice: plug in 2 extra meg, it's on the order of $100, but be sure to get
the right config, ask your dealer or read the May issue of MacWorld.

Good luck!

[e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 92 14:37:21 EST
From: Murph Sewall <[e-mail]>
Subject: TT fonts

On Wed, 24 Jun 1992 11:47 EDT you said:
>I caught a note of yours on Info-mac. I've been looking for some TT
>fonts to downlowd.  can't seem to find any.  you mentioned UMich. whats
>the FTP address there?

mac.archive.umich.edu (141.211.164.153).  cd mac/00help and do a dir
there's an index file (about 600K) that not only lists all the files but
briefly describes them.  Tons of fonts, Type 3, Type 1, TT.  Many are
awful, but some are pretty good (I like Black Chancery TT for example).

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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1992 17:56 -0500
From: [e-mail]
Subject: View by...shortcut!

While this might be documented someplace, I just found a cool way to
change the "View by..." setting for a window. As long as you aren't in
view by Icon or Small Icon (any of the text representations of the folder's
directories), you can simply click on the word in the window header that you
want items to be sorted by. Neat!

-Craig

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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1992 15:10:29 PDT
From: backmod (Info-Mac Moderator )

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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 92 00:21 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Roger Allen)
To: [e-mail]
Resent-To: [e-mail]
Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1992 10:27:02 PDT
Resent-From: Info-Mac Moderator <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] cyber-gif.hqx

I am submitting my GIF-viewing program CyberGif into the sumex-aim archives.
A description follows.  If you like it, please remember to support shareware.

Roger Allen

#####CyberGif Description
CyberGif is a Macintosh GIF viewer.
"Why another one?" you may ask.  Well, CyberGif has a lot of features that
aren't available on the other GIF viewers that I have found. I tried the
other gif viewers/editors and found the features that I wanted in a GIF
viewer.
These features include:

-Fast Decode & Display--see the gifs as you decode them.
-Small Program Size--only 54k!  Save disk space for GIFs--not viewers!
-Dithering--CyberGif allows black & white Macs (w/ColorQD) to see GIF files!
Please note that CyberGif does this AUTOMATICALLY only if all monitors
hooked up to the Mac are in two color mode.  Multiple monitors of differing
depths may confuse CyberGif.  A future version will fix this.
-Slide Show--just put the GIFs you want in a directory and watch the full
screen show!  Also note that the GIFs must be of type 'GIFf' to be seen in
the slide show.
-Growable/Scrollable windows--you can choose to stretch/shrink the window!
-Fit Gif to Screen--and keeps the GIF proportions correct!
-Full Screen Window--for those times when a window and menu bar are too
distracting!
-System Palette Option--see how the GIF would look as a background picture!
-Information Window--look at the current GIF's colors and much more!
-Flash--get rid of color residue that most GIF viewer leave in the background!

#####NOTES:

CyberGif has been developed and tested on a Macintosh IIcx running
System 7.0 with both Virtual Memory and 32-bit mode on.

I have personally tested CyberGif on the following Macs:
SE/30, System 6; IIcx, System 6; IIcx, System 7; IIci, System 6;
LC, System 6.0.8; IIsi, System 7; Classic II, System 7; PowerBook 140, System
7.

On any machine without Color Quickdraw, CyberGif dies a quick and ugly death.
This will be fixed in a future version.

On multiple-monitor machines, automatic dithering will NOT work unless
ALL screens are set to 1-bit mode.

#####CyberGif Version History
1.1 - This version hopefully fixes the problems that some users had with
Mac LCs and the HDT Lightshow init.  It also includes a way to pause
the slideshow. (June, 1992)
1.0 - The first official release of CyberGif. (May, 1992)

[Archived as /info-mac/art/gif/cyber-gif.hqx; 54K]

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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 92 01:15:05 CDT
From: Jay Poutinen <[e-mail]>

Subject: ftp sites with no "dir"
Status: ON 32768
Mailed To: [e-mail]

Thought I would eventually figure this out, but haven't been able to--
When I log on to some ftp sites (eg., wuarchive.wustl.edu), I log in
as usual (anonymous/e-mail address) and get the ftp> prompt.  No
problem.  BUT, it will not provide a directory--"dir" or "ls".
Why not?  What am I not doing right?

Thanks.  Jay
Internet:  [e-mail]

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